thanks for that info. its still pretty disappointing that after this indo edge fiasco, they still built in differences between a 2.0 retail and 2.0 for players. I know that i don't use the fight strap and that these are small differences, but when I buy something that's authentic, the small differences are what matters, otherwise i'd just settle on the IE right? i mean, how much could that little bit of twill cost? i suppose if the quality of the jersey is the same from the outside, and it's the only thing i can buy in a size that doesn't fit like a dress since i'm not wearing pads underneath, it'll have to do.