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18 hours ago, mfitz804 said:
Well done my man, answering everything in bulk!
That's what she said. 😆
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On 8/18/2020 at 1:46 PM, JimmyGagner said:
Better late than never.
It is a custom font. Closest is Capitals stars and stripes vintage jersey font
Actually, I have it in both TrueType font and Adobe Illustrator. The closest is called NHL Vegas Golden Knights.
FTR, the number font they use wasn't what the first font. This was the original and they were asked to change it:
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On 9/14/2020 at 6:55 AM, Devilsguy said:
IIRC, didn't that customizer/manufacturer who used to post on here a bit (handle is on the tip of my tongue) mention once that one of the fabrics (not air-knit) on the Edge jerseys cost more per yard than most materials used to make wedding dresses?
That would explain why Reebok/Adidas probably started making the Indo's because their cost were significantly higher than the 6100's.
I was the one who said this and I got this information from three extremely credible sources.
On 9/14/2020 at 7:11 AM, jsh139 said:I know who you're talking about (@HannuVirta, I think? Or maybe it was @JunkyardAthletic) But I don't recall him saying that. But, yeah, that supports my theory of high cost of materials + high cost of labor and not enough demand for the high-priced resulting product leading to the outsourcing of jerseys.
Guilty as charged.
On 9/14/2020 at 12:28 PM, mfitz804 said:Someone definitely did say that, I don't recall who it was though. The question is, then, why the fvck would they do that? The old materials were way better IMHO.
Yup.
On 9/14/2020 at 2:28 PM, LondonGardens said:I'm wondering did they close the factory in Quebec that made the Edge 2.0s? Or, if that same plant makes the Adidas, did they fire a large percentage of those people who had been making the jerseys we love for years (was that the same plant that made 6100s and 550s?).
No.
On 9/14/2020 at 7:09 PM, KB67 said:The Edge jerseys were made at the Maska plant and the Adidas jerseys are made at the SP plant, so two different manufacturers
Incorrect as previously stated.
On 9/15/2020 at 8:55 AM, TMLFAN said:...and thought edge and adidas were made at the same one.
Correct as previously stated.
On 9/25/2020 at 11:24 PM, JimmyGagner said:Adidas jerseys are still made at the Maska factory, same place that Maska and CCM jerseys have been made for decades. They are owned by the parent company of SP. SP is the factory in Granby, they make Nike jerseys and they also have their own retail business. So one company, owns both major hockey jersey manufacturing in Canada.
This is correct, HOWEVER...
I was told by a highly credible/knowledgeable source, that when Adidas took over CCM/Reebok, they updated the facility, as they did in Indianapolis, to what Adidas had built in Germany (i.e. SuperFactory).
In 2017, 3B Hockey purchased the former "Maska" factory from Adidas,to make the jerseys as a separate business from what they own in SP Apparel. They are run as separate businesses.On 9/26/2020 at 3:40 PM, mdwsta4 said:I feel like this has to be an EQM thing. The Caps, for example, seem to get a TON of 58’s. At least in practice jerseys (I would see them all during EQ sales) while the Flyers have more players wearing 52 than anywhere else in the league. Doesn’t make any sense unless it’s purely the EQM’s call. Obviously players have their individual input but I’m sure a lot of them just take whatever is given to them
It is.
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is the lack of a decent color match on the navy name and number for the back of Columbus' white jersey?
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On 12/2/2017 at 9:33 PM, furiousd said:
Airknit? First I've heard that. Pics?
You obviously failed to read the first post of this thread...
On 12/2/2017 at 10:58 PM, Van67 said:That's not airknit. This is airknit, used on the Made in Canada authentic Reebok Edge 2.0 jerseys...
What did they charge you? $400?
On 12/2/2017 at 9:33 PM, furiousd said:Airknit? First I've heard that. Pics?
It is a new type of airknit, first reported last June.
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Didn't see this posted anywhere... interesting
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10 minutes ago, hatryk said:
I read "were making tight tshirts with logos"
QFT
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I use my Facebook account...freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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6 hours ago, jsh139 said:
That's cool. Regarding the crests and the new materials, I would assume that these come pre-sewn from Adidas, no?
Correct
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Hawks jerseys...
https://twitter.com/BrianSandalow/status/878380142212431872/photo/1
You can see on the red how details SHOULD matter, but certainly don't. The shoulder panel should be cut square so that dimples don't disappear into the stitching areas.
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By now, we've all seen the photos, however, I'm here in Vegas and got right up to the jersey. Only problem, my phone died.
In short, the body and sleeves are all a new air-knit material. There's a pattern to it, however, no holes like the air-knit used on the previous EDGE 2.0. I think the durability on these panels is going to be just fine.
On the shoulders, I don't even know how to describe the material. It is embossed, doubleknit type but softer, felt like it was padded or the was some type of lamination on the backside. I honestly couldn't tell.
The mesh used is going to be fine for what they're trying to accomplish via venting. Wouldn't surprise me if adidas sublimates the mesh panels, especially on the grey.
Cost wise, here's what Vegas is doing and I've been told they're "authentic, Made in Canada". Not sure who is doing the "custom retail" decoration...
What is the price of the official jersey?
Prices are $200 for a non-customized jersey and $265 for a customized jersey (before tax).
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31 minutes ago, LAK74 said:
I realize that. Like I said earlier about the Kings crest, there must be a layer of red airknit material in the center of the crest which is completely separate from the airknit jersey panel beneath the crest. This top layer of airknit is most likely sitting on top of a white base twill layer. The black strip of twill looks like it goes over the white twill, but it's also higher than the red airknit portion, which is why I said it looks kiss-cut.
Going by the pics, that's the way it is done.
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2 minutes ago, LAK74 said:
I think there would have to be a complete, solid piece of white twill as the crest base. A piece of black airknit would go on top of that, with the silver merrowed border tacking down the edges of the black airknit piece. At least that's how the WCOH crests appear to be constructed.
Could be right, however, this is more noticeable on the NJD jersey where the inner part of the crest is actually cut top to bottom, thus the embossed pattern in the material is running against the jersey panel's embossed pattern.
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8 hours ago, LAK74 said:
The jersey material in the new crests appears to be a plain polyester knit (much cheaper than the Edge stretch material, I'm sure) and I would imagine it actually is cheaper than twill.
Upon taking a closer look you'll see that the crest on the LA jersey is very interesting. You have the outer border white that is twill with the silver glitter merrow stitch, but then the inter part of the crest is the jersey panel itself.
You can also see how the "crown" sits ON TOP of the fabric and appears to be sewn down...
COL = can really see how the embroidery sits ON TOP of the jersey fabric and the maroon inner part of the crest.
CMB = you can see how they used the jersey material with the red on the inner part of the crest, however, most the crest is twill
DET = the crest is of the same material as the front jersey panel but sits on top of the panel, stitched down.
EDM = twill white circle with OILERS embroidery in navy. No idea about the oil drop
FLA = all twill with embroidery
SJ = not sure if it's the flash, but the teal looks lighter than previous...
VEG = the detail stitching on the black is tremendous
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30 minutes ago, Brilliant! said:
It's déjà vu all over again. Let's see how long it takes for players to complain about the new old material. There is no chance that this crap stands up to average wear.
QFT! It's been my thought all along. Remember, they did this before with little to no input from the players. Wouldn't be shocked for that to be the case again...
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Just now, LAK74 said:
I was assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that mfitz was referring to Edge "stretch mesh," which was not unique to 1.0's. (It was the stuff used on the backs (as well as in other places) of both 1.0's and 2.0's, and is the material that most NHL teams used for nameplates on Edge jerseys.)
The materials unique to 1.0's were bubble mesh (the water-repellent stretchy stuff on the front and arms of the jersey), and x-trafil (smooth, tightly knit material on the shoulders and parts of the sleeves). I didn't even know if Reebok made those materials available for sale- were you by chance referring to one of these 2 materials? If so, then I misunderstood someone's comment, and sorry for any confusion my post may have caused.
Front.
Reebok made those available to customizers at the cost of $45/yard.
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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:
I once had a customizer tell me that Edge material costs more than wedding dress material. Is twill really more expensive?
Assuming we're talking about 1.0 material, that was because of what CCM/Reebok was charging for it. I found THE EXACT FABRIC for 80% less.
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2 hours ago, CJ Matthews said:
The first thing I'll say about this right off the bat is, if these are actually the jerseys, it's nice to see the crests aren't sublimated like we had feared earlier.
I've had several NHL teams tell me that when they saw their reveal back in December, the practice jerseys had a fully sublimated front panel.
1 hour ago, jsh139 said:The material definitely looks different than Air-Knit. Looks kind of like the Edge 1.0 X-trafil or whatever they called it.
One of the problems with 1.0 were the massive amounts of jersey repairs being made due to poor abrasion. Air-knit "solved" that, but, I see this move to be similar to what adidas does for their soccer teams by offering one product for field/on-ice play and retail sell.
1 hour ago, dsl135 said:Interestingly, a lot of teams now have the mesh/jersey material incorporated into their logos (like the World Cup jerseys did). Philly, Carolina, Columbus, Winnipeg, Buffalo, Minnesota, NJ, Arizona all have it so far.
Fingers crossed on the authentics...
This is called making the jersey CHEAPER!
Think about it..."we cut the (cheap) jersey fabric to use in the logo in place of the (more expensive) twill to provide a better look. On top of that, this makes the jersey lighter in weight and allows the players to perform better."
Let's call it what it truly is; creating larger margins.
49 minutes ago, LAK74 said:I was told by someone in the know that the design was not going to be very different at all from the Edge. I have a feeling they're going to be similar to the WCOH design, which would be fine with me- I really liked how they fit, less baggy-looking than the Edge.
Have a friend who used to work at adidas who told me that they refined the patterns to make the "on-ice" product less baggy and better fitting. When they went to 2.0, they altered the patterns.
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On 5/18/2017 at 1:00 PM, mfitz804 said:
I've never even considered that. How annoying that must be.
For those two teams, yes, all others, no.
I think every team is able to get a jersey from their customizer, even on weekends.
Speaking for myself, I became a "known shipper" with TSA and a few airlines, specifically to avoid problems in getting teams product on a Saturday or Sunday.
Worst case, it goes on an airplane and a courier picks it up and takes it the rest of the way.
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On 5/17/2017 at 7:47 AM, CJ Matthews said:
Based on what I heard when I spoke to the guy who does the Rangers, he wasn't sure how exactly it was going to be done. I'd have to imagine, given the option, he'd prefer to do his own lettering, because with the arch the Rangers use, a letter L in one place on one name will look different than the same letter in a different place on a different name, and if a player gets called up last minute there's no way he'd be able to get a jersey ready in time if he needs to wait for Adidas to send him lettering for a new player.
On 5/17/2017 at 7:49 AM, Devilsguy said:That's a very good point and I can imagine the Red Wings are in the same boat.
I'm sure these two teams EQMs carry the specific letters they need for whatever order they go in. Probably a royal pain in the a**, however, ya gotta do whatcha gotta do...
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5 hours ago, LAK74 said:
That's basically what I meant.
My bad, essay.
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6 hours ago, LAK74 said:
I've heard from a reliable source that next season most NHL teams will continue to have their lettering done by the customizers with whom they have contracted. Only a few teams (including Las Vegas) will have their lettering kits done by Adidas.
To my knowledge, all NHL teams will continue to use their customizers that they've used in the past. Whether or not the customizer is the one to create the lettering kits is a different story.
Vegas lettering will be purchased from adidas for EPS to customize; LAK will continue with Bobcat from top to bottom.
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