Hockey Bob Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, jsh139 said: I'm sure that's what they did. You can probably safely subtract 4" from the measurement. So, it's probably a size 52. I'd email the person and ask them to remeasure. I contacted the seller and asked for a measurement across the hem. He said 25.5 across the bottom so it's probably about a 52 I was kicking it around but $500 + strip and hope it comes clean + fix the fight strap + relettering correctly = a tall stack of cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears1000 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hockey Bob said: I contacted the seller and asked for a measurement across the hem. He said 25.5 across the bottom so it's probably about a 52 I was kicking it around but $500 + strip and hope it comes clean + fix the fight strap + relettering correctly = a tall stack of cash Yeah, that's pretty much the same reason I'm staying away. I also like to stay under $200 if I have to strip a jersey to minimize risk of losing $$. Edited May 9, 2018 by gwarjis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, Hockey Bob said: I contacted the seller and asked for a measurement across the hem. He said 25.5 across the bottom so it's probably about a 52 I was kicking it around but $500 + strip and hope it comes clean + fix the fight strap + relettering correctly = a tall stack of cash Both the size analysis and financial analysis are most likely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudrock512 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 I stopped watching that Hawks jersey. The Gunzo logo would have been cool, but the fight strap issue, and the needing to be stripped, it is just too much for what they are asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 I knocked $15 off a jersey, forgot to re-set my autodecline offer settings, and then received an offer for less than half of the BIN price. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr_Puck said: I knocked $15 off a jersey, forgot to re-set my autodecline offer settings, and then received an offer for less than half of the BIN price. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Not that dumb, you can just reject it and then re-set your auto reject. Not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Not that dumb, you can just reject it and then re-set your auto reject. Not a big deal. Never mind, I'll be nice. Edited May 9, 2018 by Dr_Puck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, Dr_Puck said: Never mind, I'll be nice. 1) Thats what she said. 2) However you want to play it is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: 1) Thats what she said. 2) However you want to play it is fine. I was venting about the buyer, not you! I just don't understand ebayers. Or Facebook users. Or really anyone who isn't sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Well, that being said, as discussed previously, whether an offer of 50% of BIN is sensible depends on the item, the BIN price, and the seller. The first two are known, the third isn’t. He doesn’t know your level of desperation to sell. So the guy took a shot. He knows now, I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Matthews Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I had somebody offer me $37 on a $1,499 OBO listing. At that point I just block the buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoHomeBaby Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, CJ Matthews said: I had somebody offer me $37 on a $1,499 OBO listing. At that point I just block the buyer. Should've sent them some of your sashimi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Matthews Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, LetsGoHomeBaby said: Should've sent them some of your sashimi. They don't deserve it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, CJ Matthews said: I had somebody offer me $37 on a $1,499 OBO listing. At that point I just block the buyer. That is ridiculous, obviously. A $37 offer on a $200 item is borderline ridiculous. Fine, I will pay you $50 but only if you include free shipping. Which is a whole other Best Offer annoyance. "Can you include free shipping?". Yeah, on the day USPS makes shipping free, I'll include free shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Matthews Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I had another item, listed $599.95 OBO. Had a guy offer me $100. I countered at $500. He countered at $200. I countered at $400. He countered at $200.01. I declined. Then a month or two later he comes back and says "Didn’t seem to work for $600. $100 seems fair." and offers me the $100 again. I don't even bother countering now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) See that’s the thing, you never know how low a seller will go unless you try. He got you down 33.3% on your price while making ludicrous offers. You only declined him when he raised his offer by a penny, which is grounds for automatic denial regardless of the price. Someone looking to sell more desperately than you, his tactic may have worked. Edited May 10, 2018 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Matthews Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) I thought I was being reasonable, and was willing to engage in a reasonable back and forth, until he decided to be unreasonable. If I had started the item price at $400 for example, his offer probably would have never made it over $100, and probably would have started at $50, because he didn't want to be reasonable. Edited May 10, 2018 by CJ Matthews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CJ Matthews said: I thought I was being reasonable, and was willing to engage in a reasonable back and forth, until he decided to be unreasonable. If I had started the item price at $400 for example, his offer probably would have never made it over $100, and probably would have started at $50, because he didn't want to be reasonable. I agree. My point was, though, that it’s not a big leap between coming down 33.3% to coming down 50%. And you were being totally reasonable. People on this board were questioning whether 50% off offers were reasonable, and in certain circumstances, they can be. If he came back at $300 instead of $200.01 like a d!ck, what would you have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoHomeBaby Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, CJ Matthews said: They don't deserve it lol 37 bucks and Faiccos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjerina Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, mfitz804 said: If he came back at $300 instead of $200.01 like a d!ck, what would you have done? Depending on how value, I bet he would have countered between $350-375. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I always hate negotiating on ebay. There are some buyers out there who clearly don't know what they're doing and don't belong to any jersey groups. And then ... then there are the buyers who you think may or may not be an IJ or Facebook user. I think I've gone back and forth with a couple of ebayers only to realize that they're good people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, cjerina said: Depending on how value, I bet he would have countered between $350-375. That’s pushing 50% off the BIN. That’s why people lowball. 25 minutes ago, Dr_Puck said: I always hate negotiating on ebay. There are some buyers out there who clearly don't know what they're doing and don't belong to any jersey groups. Yeah, but when those people sell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Matthews Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 For that particular item I probably would have countered at 375, because after fees I'd still be pushing where I wanted to end up. Off of ebay, I probably would have gone down a bit more, maybe 325-330. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, CJ Matthews said: For that particular item I probably would have countered at 375, because after fees I'd still be pushing where I wanted to end up. Off of ebay, I probably would have gone down a bit more, maybe 325-330. Right. So your BIN was roughly double what you wanted to get. To those who think a 50% off best offer is “lowballing”, there’s proof it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: Right. So your BIN was roughly double what you wanted to get. To those who think a 50% off best offer is “lowballing”, there’s proof it’s not. It's not necessarily "proof" of anything more than that one individual seller. I personally don't list my items for THAT much more than I'm willing to accept. Sorta like you said "the unknown aspect is the seller." So this isn't exactly "proof" except for that specific seller. Otherwise it would be "proof" that 50% IS "lowballing" because, I, as a seller, said so, lol. It's only one source, is my point, I guess. Edited May 11, 2018 by dsl135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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