cowboys Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I did ask thru the eBay listing ,and accused them of shill bidding but no response yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeM7392 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 It's totally an effective strategy as a buyer. As a seller, obviously I'd prefer everyone who wants to make a bid have the opportunity to do so. But yeah, I snipe too. Hmm, I just realized I'm an idiot. I've never snipped an auction because I have no idea what that would entail. I have SNIPED a ton though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I did ask thru the eBay listing ,and accused them of shill bidding but no response yet Unfortunately, there's no way for them to win on that. If they deny it, they look guilty. If they don't respond at all, they still look guilty. So they'll probably just ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hmm, I just realized I'm an idiot. I've never snipped an auction because I have no idea what that would entail. I have SNIPED a ton though. With all the crap that gets said on this forum and others, you'll need more than that to accomplish an idiot level! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeccaDon123 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Man this makes me wonder what players and or teams know about the jerseys that players sign. Thinking about that "sporting goods store" in a "local" mall I've posted about that sells 100% fakes with flyers, Phillies, Eagles and Sixers signatures.. This s*** here makes me wonder if teams/players get a cut. These players get signings scheduled and get paid to do it. A fan can have their own jerseys signed and this "store" has between 10-20 fakes signed, authenticated thru a top authenticator(JSA) and they sell the jerseys for $250 bucks in a local mall. Someone has to know, the player, a team rep, an NHL rep. Are they complicit? I've heard the argument for "fakes"(people who can't afford real jerseys can only afford fakes etc) but this is different. A $5 jersey, with a $10 sig, LOA for $20 and then sold for $250 to fans that are diehard enough to patronize. This stuff is expected from a back alley hustler, but from a big sporting good store, in a mall, where players come to meet the fans and agree to sign fakes for the store owner so he can rip fans offs? Now we have team run ebay stores trying to hustle their own fans... WTF???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboys Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=231910672607&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2765 same s*** as before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Bunch of fudging losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm at a loss for words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robersong88 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 The Lindblom is even worse. Individual bids every 4 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousd Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 44 bids and counting, six days left. Seems legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I reported them, not like that accomplished anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyers845 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 What's going on with these chiselers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 What's going on with these chiselers They are a bunch of dirtbags. That's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Like I have said in the past, this is another reason why auctioning off gamers sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 By that logic, all auctions suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 By that logic, all auctions suck. They do (for the buyers usually) and I am glad we agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Everyone should report the auctions. It won't do much but hey... give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 They do (for the buyers usually) and I am glad we agree. I didn't agree. Your logic presupposed that all sellers are dishonest, which is clearly not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Everyone should report the auctions. It won't do much but hey... give it a shot. I recently had occasion to call eBay's customer service about a shill bidding situation and was surprised by what their criteria are. I won't post it here because it's basically a quick start guide on how to successfully shill bid without reprisal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I didn't agree. Your logic presupposed that all sellers are dishonest, which is clearly not correct. Not saying sellers are dishonest, but auctioning off these kinds of stuff usually ends with the buyers being screwed somehow. As long as teams/leagues make money they couldn't care less so that's how things are going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well in this instance the only people getting screwed are the people who don't realize the seller is dishonest. It's the team doing the screwing, has nothing to do with it being an auction, which can be run fairly and legitimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well in this instance the only people getting screwed are the people who don't realize the seller is dishonest. It's the team doing the screwing, has nothing to do with it being an auction, which can be run fairly and legitimately. Even in fair auctions the buyer gets screwed by paying more than the value of the item. Yes no one is putting a gun to their heads to bid, but in the end in auctions often the buyer does get screwed in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) The buyer sets his own max price, so in a fair auction, the buyer can't get screwed unless he screws himself. Edited April 13, 2016 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Even in fair auctions the buyer gets screwed by paying more than the value of the item. Yes no one is putting a gun to their heads to bid, but in the end in auctions often the buyer does get screwed in some way.I see WAY more auctions ending for far below fair prices on stuff than I do stuff where things go for more than market value without shill bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I see WAY more auctions ending for far below fair prices on stuff than I do stuff where things go for more than market value without shill bidding. And even if they do go above maker value, it's only if the buyer bids more than market value, so that person is not getting screwed, unless as I said, you consider it screwing themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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