mfitz804 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dr_Puck said: How long until Meigray's Cyber Monday jerseys end up being re-sold for double the original asking price? Listed for sale, maybe. But sold, in this market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 47 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Listed for sale, maybe. But sold, in this market? Dear non Facebook user: The more absurd the idea, the more likely it is to appear on a group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 15 hours ago, Dr_Puck said: How long until Meigray's Cyber Monday jerseys end up being re-sold for double the original asking price? Good luck to those sellers then. If they make any sort of profit on them then they should be doing cartwheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amonte78 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Dr_Puck said: Dear non Facebook user: The more absurd the idea, the more likely it is to appear on a group. Maybe with a hyped up description? "I'm selling this game worn jersey from player X. He was...........a draft pick." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudrock512 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 OK, I'm not going to say who this is, but there is an eBay member that has been known for flipping jerseys less than what he pays for them. Here is a story with a jersey I bought from him, only to have him buy it back, and now has it back up for sale. I bought a jersey from him for $75.00. When I got it, it needed a little work, put on a nameplate, added sleeve numbers. When done, it didn't really fit my collections as I already had an older version of the jersey. So I listed if for sale. The same person I purchased it from made an other and we settled on $125.00 for the jersey. He just posted the jersey up for sale on eBay for $110.00 buy-it-now. This isn't like a couple months later, but he just got it back and the next day has it for sale. If he wants to flip the jersey, I don't care, he can do what he wants - its his jersey now; but aren't you supposed to make a profit? Just this one jersey, I have him in the red for $65.00. Make a profit, buddy - you wont hurt my feelings. I kind of feel bad, like I ripped him off somehow even though all I did what buy it and sell it back to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I do this by accident all the time. Its what happens when you get excited and overpay. Though, in your situation, at least try to get back the extra $10 and break even! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committed Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Are you sure he is not laundering drug money through the jersey sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Also some people are just mail day whores. They get a rush from posting mail days. I also sold and shipped another jersey on Thursday. Maybe things are looking up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 52 minutes ago, Devilsguy said: Also some people are just mail day whores. They get a rush from posting mail days. I also sold and shipped another jersey on Thursday. Maybe things are looking up? Sounds like an emo/punk band name. Personally I just change my mind too quickly on what I am going to collect. I already have 3 jerseys at EPS that I know I don't really want/need, and I think I know what will happen next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, mfitz804 said: Sounds like an emo/punk band name. Personally I just change my mind too quickly on what I am going to collect. I already have 3 jerseys at EPS that I know I don't really want/need, and I think I know what will happen next... Which is ironic because I really only collect the Devils, but as we know, everything is different, player, number, year, manufacturer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanz Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 07/11/2017 at 10:16 AM, Devilsguy said: Quite frankly I think the gamer market has little to nothing to do with the authentic market and vice versa. While there is some overlap, authentic collectors are a bit of a different breed than gamer collectors and one has little influence over the other. I think the fakes certainly have at least a little bit to do with it. I also think the transition from Reebok to Adidas has made it harder for everyone as the average fan who is not a collector typically wants the latest and greatest. In the gamer market, the biggest issue are the collectors themselves. This is more than any dealer or team out there. I'm slowly learning this new hobby and do value this jersey forum. But I guess that means by your post that I'm an "authentic" buyer. Since I do not have a particular interest in "game worn" jersey's since it wouldn't fit me nor would I be displaying most of my jersey's and or trading or selling back to the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 In talking to the OP on this thread today on Facebook, I realized that buying an NHL gamer from an original source is typically a problem. Whether it's Meigray or a team (looking specifically at the Kings haha), the original buyer is almost ways going to take a hit. Of course the same thing happens with authentics but getting a gamer into circulation just requires a huge investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsguy Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, Dr_Puck said: In talking to the OP on this thread today on Facebook, I realized that buying an NHL gamer from an original source is typically a problem. Whether it's Meigray or a team (looking specifically at the Kings haha), the original buyer is almost ways going to take a hit. Of course the same thing happens with authentics but getting a gamer into circulation just requires a huge investment. That's pretty much the trade-off. You can snag jerseys at secondary market prices sometimes during the dealer's various sales, but if you buy from the source you gotta really love it. Funny how I remember seeing plenty of collectors complain about Meigray's prices on Kings jerseys when they had them. Now they are all wishing the Kings go back once they saw how much the Kings wanted since they started marketing the jerseys themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsh139 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 It’s like buying a car, haha. First owner takes the depreciation hit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMusic Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 ....that being said... I would definitely buy an Arenas jersey from the Leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharolde Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Devilsguy said: Funny how I remember seeing plenty of collectors complain about Meigray's prices on Kings jerseys when they had them. Now they are all wishing the Kings go back once they saw how much the Kings wanted since they started marketing the jerseys themselves. Meigray's prices are still too high on Kings jerseys. Jerseys they sell for 1500 have a hard time getting half that on the secondary market. No modern jersey should be more than 1000 in my opinion. The Kings prices on their jerseys are ridiculous. However, it does not make me wish for Meigray's prices. I would much prefer the pricing to go back to the pre stanley cup winning prices. That is wishful thinking though . I do long for Meigray's customer service and transparency. That is second to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg39 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I have never understood people’s insistence on getting their money back or making a profit when selling a jersey that they own. Jerseys are not art. As a friend of mine likes to point out, they are used clothing. Yes, game worn jerseys of stars are worth something, but common players, generally not so much, and retail authentics are indeed just used clothing. I buy what I do for the enjoyment that I get from it, just like going to a game. If I decide to sell something, It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. My opinion is that you should not be buying jerseys with plans to sell them and get your money back or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousd Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 In fairness - the lament is often referring to items that were already used when purchased. It's not a crazy assumption that if you buy a collectible (which is what these are, in addition to being clothing) at market price, you could turn around and sell it at the same price (minus fees, shipping, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg39 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I view game worn jerseys as collectibles. I view a retail jersey as fan clothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousd Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Sure, I think that applies well to something that you can still buy retail. But once it's off the market, it better fits the definition of a collectible. Doesn't necessarily mean it should be worth whatever the last retail sale price was, but still a collectible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I never expect to get back what I paid if I bought the blank and did the customizing. But if I spend $150 on a “used” customized authentic, obviously I want to try to break even on that. If I paid $X, in theory someone else should also. That doesn’t always work but it’s a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I guess the same can apply to authentics. When you're the first person to buy a jersey from a primary source, you're going to take a hit (if you sell it down the road). I'm just thinking about getting jerseys into the market in the first place. Most of the biggest losses I've taken have been on gamers that I've purchased originally from someone like Meigray or a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Puck Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Bumping my favorite thread with this observation: At this point we can conclude that the supply has far outpaced the demand in this market. Between GI, TI, EPS and Keener-done up blanks, training camp jerseys, more teams (especially in junior) making their jerseys accessible, military specialty, cancer specialty, etc. specialty, sets 1-3 and playoffs ... There's just too many jerseys out there compared to the number of interested buyers. I've had a couple of reasonably priced gamers on ebay and in the Facebook groups that I finally pulled after they just weren't getting any traction. The hobby is definitely at a turning point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiggoalie Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr_Puck said: The hobby is definitely at a turning point. That’s what she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, thebiggoalie said: That’s what she said. It's fun, right? 1 hour ago, Dr_Puck said: Bumping my favorite thread supply has far outpaced the demand in this market. There's just too many...out there compared to the number of interested buyers. I finally pulled after they just weren't getting any traction. She said all of these!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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