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  1. Nathan

    third jerseys are back

    The story is true, the motive may not be.
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    Accuracy/Quality quandary

    I have a late-1980s Penguins jersey with 66s on it, which all looks to be accurate. The problem is that it has a screened crest on airknit, which is correct for 1987-88. But the sewn twill numbers, in addition to the placement of said numbers, didn't start until 1988-89 - which was an ultrafil jersey. So my quandary is whether to strip off the numbers and have everything re-done according to the original on-ice specs, which to me were hideous. Or I can keep it as it is, which looks significantly nicer even though it does create a material/accuracy mismatch. Or I can pick up a sewn twill crest and include that when I sell/trade it., without actually sewing it down or placing it. Thoughts? First is 1987-88, second is 1988-89
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    third jerseys are back

    Nah, it was because a bunch of Penguins fans got liquored up in, grabbed onto him, and either thrusting or grinding on him. I think that was the 8th day after Boomer made his first in-game appearance, so I'd imagine that they were simply excited for Boomer's bris.
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    third jerseys are back

    They were first worn the day after Thanksgiving, which I believe was a home game against Detroit. The unveiling was the day before Thanksgiving, during the intermission of a road game against the Islanders.
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    Help on WHO TO PUT ON THIS!

    Could always do a 00 Gaborik draft jersey. I don't have any clue if that was Pro Player or not, but it might have been. Or have a #1 with a big name that says "FANS" on it. Gotta remember the retired numbers.
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    Jersey Collector's Glossary

    Actually, I am a Buzek fan if you still have it.
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    1997-98 Washington Capitals Customizing Help

    From capsjerseys.com: Numbers - The numbers are layered so that there is only one full layer. The home jerseys have the black layer on the bottom, then a thin bronze outline sewn on top of the black and then a very thin white outline layer on top. Likewise, the road jerseys have the white layer on the bottom, then bronze, then black. Namebar - The letters are three-color tackle-twill letters in the same color scheme as the numbers attached to a namebar made of Airknit material. The letters are layered exactly like the numbers. The letters of the third jersey are arched along the bottom with the beginning and end of the name being taller than the middle.
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    Infamous Blues Third Killed by Mike Keenan

    Just to put it out there, but I can say with absolute certainty that Mike Keenan had absolutely nothing to do with this design getting squashed. I've had a write-up on my site sitting at about 95% completion for a few months, and can't seem to track down the last two people for quotes to really tie everything up.
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    Islanders Wave Customization

    They used both, with no apparent rhyme or reason to which one was which.
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    In-hand reviews of the new Adizero Indo Jersey

    That's nothing new. Pre-customized jerseys from the manufacturer - the ones that end up in the NHL.com shop or in most traditional retailers - have been one-layer screened twill for the last decade. If the color, size, and name/number placement is actually correct, that's pretty uncommon. Either go blank and get it customized from someone that will actually commit to doing it right, or buy customized from a place that has the same level of commitment.
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    2017-2018 Jersey Watch

    That's an alternate version of history there. Reebok made both the premier replicas and the on-ice Edge authentics available for retail from the very beginning (2007-08). The pricing was insane, especially on the latter, but it was available. A handful of players on certain teams complained during the preseason that sweat was wicking away from their gear, running down the sleeves, and pooling in their gloves. Different things were tried, nothing worked, so Reebok made airknit versions of the Edge available exclusively for the teams. Around the time that this happened, Barry Meisel referred to the two different versions by what they'd become known as: the original as Edge 1.0, and the airknit version as Edge 2.0. There was also a couple of fights that took place, one of which I remember involving Jarome Iginla, in which the fight strap tore completely away from the rest of the jersey. This is what prompted the additional twill block to be added to the strap attachments. Anyway, Reebok allowed retail sales of the 1.0s all the way through the 2010-11 season. At that point, they said that they'd be discontinuing the 1.0 and allowing purchases of the 2.0 for retail in time for the 2011-12 season. What everyone who ordered them received instead was an Indonesian version of the 2.0, with the same cost and price point as the 1.0s had been. This was what became known as the Indo-Edge. I'd know; I'm the one who coined it, and it was right here on these boards. Despite the backlash from pretty much everyone, Reebok never backed down from the Indo. For six full season (2011-12 through 2016-17), the only "authentic" that could be purchased was the Indo, and at no point did they make the 2.0 available to conventional retailers. Instead, what they ended up doing was simply accumulating enormous amounts of dead stock that they couldn't foist onto the teams; these were eventually dumped all over the place. They'd already done that with the buildup of 1.0s, where SVP Sports in Canada ended up getting tens of thousands of blank 1.0s of all teams and then sold them for $50-60 each. You can see the original thread here, beginning November 2010. Information on the Indo begins around page 7 or 8.
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    In-hand reviews of the new Adizero Indo Jersey

    This varies from team to team. Every team has the option of ordering pre-customized ones through Adidas, just as they did with Reebok, and they'll be the same as what goes through the NHL.com online shop. Some do it, some don't. I can tell you that Columbus has ones that are properly done: sublimated with actual perforated twill instead of everything being screened. Just like how they always had stacked twill on the Reebok ones, and the CCM/Koho before that. There's a base layer of twill that everything - jersey fabric included - goes on top of.
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    2017-2018 Jersey Watch

    I know that the ones Columbus is selling in the team stores have perforated twill with the red layer sublimated. Not screened, sublimated. It's a different one. The snaps are noticeably different; they're smaller than the Indo and the on-ice Edge. 42, 44, and 46 all look to have smaller crests. It's glued on and then stitched, but the stitching should be removable and the glue doesn't seem like much of anything.
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    2017-2018 Jersey Watch

    Not too long ago we have two different types of CCM replica: airknit and that really cheap ultrafil that was marginally thicker than a t-shirt. That includes the wrong material compared to what the team on the ice was wearing. Not too long ago we had Starter producing off-color "fashion jerseys" for most of the teams in the league. Remember the St. Louis Blues wearing black or Detroit wearing powder blue? Not too long ago we had Starter and Pro Player producing replicas for teams that they did not outfit on the ice, putting them into direct competition with replicas of those same teams produced by their actual on-ice supplier. I don't remember anyone claiming fraud or willful deception in those cases.
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    2017-2018 Jersey Watch

    Plenty of people did this with the Indo, and it made no difference in the six years that it existed. The quality of the later Indo was certainly higher than it was at the beginning, but it still paled compared to a 2.0. The first Indos had the Reebok wordmark pressed on and not sewn, and the fight strap stitching was all over the place. After about three seasons, they started actually making it look somewhat decent. Not $300 decent, but at least more passable than the first ones.